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Into the Future
An Interview with Rosabeth Moss Kanter
Volume
4, Number 4
The current trials and tribulations of the
stock markets notwithstanding, the
Internet still rules, having changed
forever the way companies do business.
According to HBS professor Rosabeth
Moss Kanter, however, it won't be the
technology that separates the winners
from the losers. Instead, it's a question of
how organizations alter their culture so
that people can work together to make
the most of the technology and better
serve their customers.
In her fifteenth book, Evolve! Succeeding in the
Digital Culture of Tomorrow, Kanter delves deeply
into what she describes as the "new prerequisites
of success." Published by the Harvard
Business School Press, the work is the result of a
team-based research effort involving more than
three hundred in-depth interviews in nearly eighty
companies around the world, as well as a global
survey of almost eight hundred established
corporations and new ventures. Working
Knowledge editor Jim Aisner interviewed
Professor Kanter about her findings.
You write in your introduction that this book is
about "a new culture, e-culture, that involves
better ways of leading, organizing, working, and
thinking." What do you mean by e-culture?
The Internet forces all businesses to run differently
because it makes everything faster, more direct,
more transparent, and more network-oriented.
You also get more immediate feedback from
customers, employees, and even activists who
may want to organize against you. So I talk about
four key elements of e-culture. The first is that
strategizing has to become less like following a
script, where you know everything about what
you're going to do before you do it. Instead, it
should be more like improvisational theater, where
you have a theme. Then you develop the details of
your strategy by interacting with your audience-a
word I like to use to signify the broad range of
people who can have an impact on your business,
be they customers or critics. You learn very quickly
from their reactions, you make fast modifications,
and you move on to the next version of your
product. You don't do long tests and slow rollouts
anymore. The second element is the need to
nurture networks of partners rather than focus on
one strategic alliance or partnership at a time. The
power of the organization comes from the
strength of the whole network. Third, you have to
reconstruct your business as a community, not as
a set of isolated silos. By community, I mean a
sense of membership that transcends the job you
are doing so that you feel some responsibility for
the fate of the entire group. Finally, because the
Internet is all about being creative, absorbing
information quickly, and making fast decisions, the
need for highly skilled workers is greater than ever.
These people can move very easily from one
operation to another, so companies need to
develop special ways to attract, motivate, and
retain them.
In that regard, the first things that come to mind
are often casual attire and office space spiced up
with music, free food, and games. Amid all this
sizzle, where's the steak?
Some of that sizzle is actually helpful in fostering
creativity and helping people get their work done,
because it means they can treat the office like
home and work long hours. But to win the talent
wars, firms have to offer what I call the three
Ms-mastery, membership, and meaning, with
money lurking in the background. Mastery means
the ability to work on important problems, using
cutting-edge tools that enable people to apply their
knowledge to create results. A performance
culture motivates employees. Membership comes
from that sense of community I spoke of earlier.
As for meaning, it's something that engages
people's moral sense and even to some extent
their spiritual sense. Part of that comes from the
opportunity to work on projects that are
important to the company and on products that
make a difference in the world. Companies also
need to look beyond the bottom line. IBM
employees, for instance, are involved in volunteer
work to help solve the problems of the U.S.
educational system.
Given the importance you place on improvisation,
how do companies accomplish that?
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The human element is
still an important part of doing business in the
Internet age.
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As I examined how firms were trying to develop
new strategies, products, and services, I noticed
that the executives responsible for charting new
waters often couldn't articulate exactly what they
wanted. All they could say was the equivalent of
"I'll know it when I see it"-a management
approach I refer to in the book as IKIWISI. Take
specialty retailer Williams-Sonoma. The CEO had
to see some concepts for a Web site before he
was convinced that the Internet would work for
the company. Sometimes you can't talk about a
new idea or write a business plan about it; you
just have to show something to decision-makers.
In the rapid-fire way in which business is done
today, putting together the right kind of team is
also an important ingredient in a company's
success. The team most likely to innovate will
have a mix of newcomers who bring fresh skills
and perspectives, as well as some old hands who
have established relationships throughout the
organization.
The changes at Williams-Sonoma developed within
the organization. Can improvisation also come
from the outside?
Absolutely. Reuters, the London-based firm that
used to transmit news and information over its
private network, went through a transformation as
a result of its external investments. That's unusual,
because big companies have traditionally bought
smaller ones and assimilated them. Well aware
that it had to transform itself into an Internet
company or die, Reuters went a different route. By
creating its own venture capital fund a few years
ago-what it called the Greenhouse Fund-it took a
minority position in various companies working on
the next new thing and systematically tried to
learn from them. The name of the game was
collaboration, and after four years or so, Reuters
had turned itself into a formidable presence on the
Web by nurturing several up-and-coming
enterprises.
As companies face this constant need to innovate,
what were some of the differences you found
between the "laggards" and the "pacesetters"?
The main difference was often in their attitudes
toward change. The laggards went through an
initial period of denial, often followed by blame.
"It's somebody else's fault that we're falling
behind," they said. Then they chose to make only
superficial changes-what I describe as putting
lipstick on a bulldog-rather than do anything
systemically different. As a result, it wasn't unusual
to see a project handed over to a committee with
no expertise, no accountability, and no time. The
pacesetters, in contrast, showed a willingness to
question their assumptions and a commitment to
follow through with a feasible action plan.
Finally, with all this attention on technology, you
make the point that companies also need to
appreciate the importance of personal
relationships.
There's no question that the Internet has the
potential to isolate people from one another. But
that's not happening in the best companies. They
still insist on having important discussions in
person and making significant decisions
face-to-face. Clearly, they use technology as a
facilitator and a means of spreading information
rapidly throughout the organization, but it is not a
substitute for human interaction. When you're
attempting new things, for example, it really does
help to bring employees together and have them
look one another in the eye. The human element is
still an important part of doing business in the
Internet age.
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